What more can be done to prevent deadly rampages in Melbourne's CBD? | 7.30

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    Melburnians are still trying to make sense of the latest tragedy in the CBD after an out-of-control car drove down Bourke Street, killing one person and injuring five others. It's the fourth incident involving a car in Melbourne's CBD in six years. Elias Clure reports.
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Justin +12
Justin

It seems like people who commit these crimes demonstrate themselves to be very, very unwell over and over again but the system just fails to act in any meaningful way to intervene. Gargasoulas is a perfect example. The ABC did a full story covering how utterly dangerous and obviously insane he was and he was repeatedly allowed back onto the streets. When it came time to determine why, everyone who could have intervened threw up their hands and insisted it wasn't their fault. And it isn't just attacks like these, Jill Magher's murderer is another lunatic who should never have been wandering around preying on people but was because of a completely dysfunctional system that apparently cannot determine a clear and present danger when presented with one.

14 дней назад
Sharyn Bailey +1
Sharyn Bailey

@TJ Marx I used to work as a Nurse in a Psychiatric Hospital here in Melbourne before the community based focus came into being. Even though it was meant to be a short term facility (3 months or less), it often turned into much longer.  In fact, some patients would literally act up when it came close to discharge, in order to start the long road back to potential discharge again. It was generally considered that was b/c they were in a safe place with a roof over their heads, getting 3 meals a day, and as recovery progressed could access the community. Staff used to refer to the hospital as a revolving door b/c often no sooner than they were released, they would be back in - in a matter or weeks or months. I love the theory behind the community based Psych system but in all honesty don't believe it works. Not only for those who commit crime, but having had a neighbour living below me in a block of flats for several years who was constantly manic or going into psychosis, it was a lot of stress on us neighbours having to cope with disruptive behaviour such as her playing really loud music at 4am on a regular basis. My neighbour would go into psychosis b/c of medication non compliance - even with a community based order. Seems to be a change of policy might be the answer?

14 дней назад
Vinnie Riley +7
Vinnie Riley

It's horrible that this happened again. Today I just returned to WA from my first trip to Melbourne. Compared with Perth, the Melbourne CBD has a liveliness and atmosphere that Perth doesn't come close to matching. It feels like a city you can simply spend time in for no particular reason. Does the technology for retractable bollards exist. Placing them at strategic locations along the tram tracks around the pedestrianised areas could be a solution.

14 дней назад
Eamonn Reilly +3
Eamonn Reilly

I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often.

14 дней назад
Diann Igwe +1
Diann Igwe

"Tougher penalties especially for youth crime we are too soft" I'm on the same page! This video is a masterpiece.

14 дней назад
michael andrews +2
michael andrews

Naa Tougher penalties and jail time for white collar criminals and corporations first.

14 дней назад
Breath in Breath out
Breath in Breath out

Seems to me those that aren't part of the police department but are in the area business owners people that care people that want to see their community healthy need to come together organize and make sure folks like this can't do what they're doing it's not hard if you get your heads together humans are amazing when they come together for the right cause and their intentions are pure

14 дней назад
Steven K
Steven K

take care on the roads, especially CBD areas where there is normally traffic anyway so there's not much opportunity to speed up. Incidents like these appear very cabled, it's on show due to an agenda.

14 дней назад
blah blah +4
blah blah

Of course, you could just ban the cars. Full stop. They're a liability that we can't bear any more.

14 дней назад
John Huxley +1
John Huxley

get a kill switch on e cars

14 дней назад
alyssaoconnor +1
alyssaoconnor

You think wrapping everyone up in bubble wrap will fix these situations? It’s about time we started dealing with the people committing the crimes not removing every situation where any incident could remotely be likely. No one will be able to wear shoe laces soon.

14 дней назад
Rob +6
Rob

So why isn’t the Andrews government doing more to address Victoria’s mental health crisis? Could be because they’re responsible for it and the state is now broke . . . . . . And why isn’t the ABC reporting more on this issue ? Because mental health isn’t an issue that won’t create fear, resentment and division within Australian society.

14 дней назад
v erbose
v erbose

The government is not responsible for your issues.

13 дней назад
Rob
Rob

@v erbose 😂😂😂

12 дней назад
Osorio's World +4
Osorio's World

Take care out there. Melbourne.

14 дней назад
Dt Mt
Dt Mt

Sydney wins again

14 дней назад
mine own +2
mine own

If someone was running down the street slashing passers-by with a knife or firing a gun at them , officers would use deadly force . A car is no different , when driven recklessly, it is a deadly weapon . Police should be allowed , make that instructed, to use corresponding measures . Use the pit maneuver yes , but officers on foot should be allowed to fire at the driver too. Whatever it takes , prioritise the welfare of the general public over that of an active criminal . It's the reasonable thing to do.

14 дней назад
GRE3NT +1
GRE3NT

Right, because firing a gun in a busy area like that is good for the people around🤦‍♂️

14 дней назад
Vote for freedom
Vote for freedom

People with murderous intent using anything weapon who knew right? 🙈🙉🙊

14 дней назад
Darren Smith
Darren Smith

Why not put pop up bollards in the non car section that activate when a vehicle enters to trap it immediately

14 дней назад
TheGamer373 +23
TheGamer373

Start banning cars in cities, Park on the outside of the city, walk/public transport within the city. Helps with emissions, space and ease of walking around the city. Leave the roads there and have them act as green spaces or locations for pop up stores.

14 дней назад
RedLightMax +4
RedLightMax

100%. Barcelona has superblocks and they work great, they'll work in Australian cities too.

14 дней назад
Ausf +1
Ausf

Cars are already banned where this happened. They've already spent $50m on barriers too. Exactly how much money are you planning to spend, and how many people are you planning to inconvenience in order to attempt to stop something like this from occurring? However big the number, all you'd be doing would be shifting the location.

14 дней назад
tubester4567
tubester4567

Thats not going to stop attacks. They will just move to Chapel Street, or a football crowd at the MCG.

14 дней назад
Alex Wilder +4
Alex Wilder

The raised paths and tram stops along Swanston are a triumph. More streets somewhat like that will allow disability, delivery and emergency vehicular traffic to continue to pass through, and make it virtually impossible to mount the curb in a heavy vehicle on a whim. It's going to require more parking at suburban stations and along the thereshold of the city center, but I believe we can do it. I hear it takes thirty year to make a city wide transformation, so we need to be in it for the long haul, politically. Never give up

14 дней назад
JSP +3
JSP

​@MegaShadowThis is one of the silliest comments I have ever seen on YouTube - and that's really saying something. Congratulations 🏆

14 дней назад
Ausf +3
Ausf

There's nothing you can do to prevent someone intent on harming others. Of course that won't stop politicians inconveniencing everyone so they can pat themselves on the back.

14 дней назад
Kyle Topfer +5
Kyle Topfer

Ban cars from the CBD, make it physically impossible for them to go fast speeds around stations and community activity centres with infrastructure and barriers.

14 дней назад
Ausf +2
Ausf

@Kyle Topfer Cars are already banned where this occurred. They already spent $50m on barriers. Do you want to stop all forms of transportation other than foot traffic? Waste of time and money, and will prevent nothing.

14 дней назад
tubester4567
tubester4567

@Kyle Topfer Then they will just move to the next place right next to the CBD, or a next suburb or Chapel street. They have already spent millions on bollards and concrete planters around the city, and across the whole of Melbourne.

14 дней назад
Kyle Topfer +1
Kyle Topfer

@tubester4567 50 million is pocket change, all the railway projects alone have cost nearly 50 billion.

14 дней назад
John O'Neill +10
John O'Neill

ABC is a puzzle how it sometimes allows comments.

14 дней назад
Asdfssdfghgdfy +3
Asdfssdfghgdfy

I think the comments on this in depth channel are often on, probably depending on how controversial the comments are (or the topic is). I think the real problem here is that the news companies can get sued based on comments on channels, which is crazy.

14 дней назад
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey

Unlike 7 and 9 who are guarded and fake. Probably still a f ck up lol

14 дней назад
Multiranger +7
Multiranger

Tougher penalties especially for youth crime we are too soft

14 дней назад
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey +2
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey

That’s creating it.

14 дней назад
Trufflesufflephatboy +1
Trufflesufflephatboy

We don't just have a slap on the wrist problem we have total problem with the Australian justice system in general

14 дней назад
michael andrews
michael andrews

Naa Tougher penalties and jail time for white collar criminals and corporations first.

14 дней назад
Trufflesufflephatboy +1
Trufflesufflephatboy

@michael andrews starting with the politicians

14 дней назад
Landica +2
Landica

As a Queenslander, Melbourne seems like a foreign country to me. I don't think it's a safe place to be and I wouldn't ever go there. The absolute state of VIctoria is disgraceful.

14 дней назад
Vinnie Riley +4
Vinnie Riley

You're consuming too much negative media. If you like urban places, Melbourne is a good weekend trip. The CBD is busy and safe. Though of course, be sensible, 3am in any city is a silly idea.

14 дней назад
Will M +5
Will M

As a Victorian I’d never go to Queensland because there’s people like you.

14 дней назад
AUSSIE +6
AUSSIE

Queensland has plenty of problems.

14 дней назад
Landica
Landica

@AUSSIE most of those problems come from Victoria

14 дней назад
Landica +1
Landica

@Will M Good, please don't. This state was never better than when they closed the borders during Covid. An absolute paradise until they opened them back up and half of VIctoria decided to move here. Stay where you are sir. Enjoy your violent rampages and traffic "accidents"

14 дней назад
hey hey +1
hey hey

They should ban car. Those vehicles are deadly and killing many people. Everyone needs to walk. Absolute ban and tough penalties for those that break the law. It’s getting too deadly with these dangerous vehicles on the rode. I don’t feel safe knowing some many have them and can use it for nefarious purposes.

7 дней назад
AUSSIE +1
AUSSIE

If I go into the city I will run from bollard to bollard.

14 дней назад
wakeup bell +1
wakeup bell

CBD = Central Business District, for anyone like me who kept wondering what this has to do with cannabidiol.

14 дней назад
Asleep Awake +5
Asleep Awake

Motive? nobody interviewed the perpetrators. To solve the problem, address the root cause, not the symptoms, like installing bollards.

14 дней назад
Caitlin hall
Caitlin hall

Yeah stop abusing random people 😊

14 дней назад
michael andrews +1
michael andrews

Because the reason may resonate with many people doing it very tough right now, the rich are terrified of this happening and own the news networks.

14 дней назад
x_401_err0r_x
x_401_err0r_x

What’s a violent vehicle?

14 дней назад
Nathan Croucher +1
Nathan Croucher

make everyone roll around in those big bubble things

14 дней назад
Jay Walker
Jay Walker

Ban cars in the CBD :)

14 дней назад
RedLightMax +6
RedLightMax

0:24 This would've been better without the dramatic music - it's a report, not a Christopher Nolan film.

14 дней назад
Adam Mohamed +4
Adam Mohamed

Out of the entire report, this is what you come away with. Such an asinine concern given the story being reported

14 дней назад
Ausf +4
Ausf

ABC love to over edit, including adding engine sounds to electric cars.

14 дней назад
Bang Goman +1
Bang Goman

Stop bullying..

14 дней назад
Ai GenX +8
Ai GenX

The violence in Australia these days is getting worst.

14 дней назад
Ausf +7
Ausf

Nope. It was worse decades ago, and has been on a steady decline. The only significant rise is in assaults in NT. In almost all other crime statistics everywhere else, all crime is on the decline, including violent crime. You can easily find the ABS crime statistics for yourself. You're probably confusing what you see in the media as getting worse.

14 дней назад
Asleep Awake +1
Asleep Awake

no, it's just social media makes the report stand out. Victims of racist hate in the past just aren't reported as much without social media

14 дней назад
Ai GenX
Ai GenX

@Ausf yeah the statistics say that violence is on the declined but I don't believe it in this case. This act was senseless and tragic especially for the victims and their families.

14 дней назад
Ausf +1
Ausf

@Ai GenX Violent crime has gone down overall, but sensationalized individual acts of random violence like driving cars through pedestrians are covered more in the media. The ABS is a reliable source of statistics. If you don't believe that, then I'm not sure what source you would find more reliable. Social media posts?

14 дней назад
Drawn +3
Drawn

Ban cars

14 дней назад
James Duggan +1
James Duggan

Only thing that can stop a bad guy w/ a car is a good guy w/ a car.

14 дней назад
hey hey
hey hey

They just need to ban them outright. No one needs them except emergency personnel and government officials.

7 дней назад
mike7430 +1
mike7430

Gotta ban those assault cars

14 дней назад
hey hey
hey hey

I feel the same, those vehicle are dangerous and hurt many people everyday

7 дней назад
jeff storer
jeff storer

Nothing can be done to stop mental people, doing mental things , better than another out on bail should be in jail story

14 дней назад
Allan Goodger +1
Allan Goodger

Increaae mental health funding.

14 дней назад
Kirk Wickham
Kirk Wickham

What more can be done to prevent deadly rampages in Melbourne's CBD? That's easy, "remove" repeat offenders from society.

14 дней назад
Jay Walker
Jay Walker

... This guy was NOT a repeat offender? your thinking is outdated and unhelpful

14 дней назад
firstname lastname
firstname lastname

How about some cops!

14 дней назад
Jay Walker
Jay Walker

city is swarming with cops, i think that the cars are the problem

14 дней назад
honey soy chicken flavoured oven baked potato chip +6
honey soy chicken flavoured oven baked potato chip

we should ban cars completely

14 дней назад
John Mac
John Mac

What more ?! lock the gates !

14 дней назад
Brian McLaughlin +6
Brian McLaughlin

Toughen up on penalties and deportation for non Australian criminals.

14 дней назад
Asdfssdfghgdfy +6
Asdfssdfghgdfy

He was a citizen though. If you’re suggesting deporting Australian citizens (I’m not sure where to?) that’s creating a dangerous precedent. Do you really want the government to have this kind of power? Regardless, this was a mental health incident and had nothing to do with terrorism or gang related crime. Toughening up on penalties will never stop crimes like this because they aren’t in a sound enough state of mind to process that. Something definitely needs to be done, but your suggestions won’t help prevent these crimes from happening.

14 дней назад
Simon the Likeable
Simon the Likeable

One person sedated into a permanent stupor is infinitely more preferable than death, carnage, first responders PTSD, familial grief, property loss, communal stress, misinformed outrage... the list of knock-on effects from these poorly managed individuals is seemingly never ending. Any effective solution is better than what happened.

14 дней назад
Brian Jones +1
Brian Jones

One problem with this: the cafe owner (in 2018) was stabbed by a Muslim. “Religious extremist” could mean a member of any religion.

14 дней назад
v erbose
v erbose

Think you meant to post on the Pauline Hanson page

13 дней назад
Brian Jones
Brian Jones

@v erbose You probably intended to write something useful.

13 дней назад
v erbose
v erbose

@Brian Jones Well that makes one of us

11 дней назад
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey
Porsche Driver, The - Richard Pusey

They should sell permits for BBQ’s.

14 дней назад
alyssaoconnor
alyssaoconnor

Ban cars, seems to be the idiotic reaction for everything else.

14 дней назад
OilBaron100 +7
OilBaron100

Melbourne needs more diversity bollards…

14 дней назад
VivaHollandia32 +3
VivaHollandia32

2:49 A religious extremist? Care to elaborate?

14 дней назад
JSP
JSP

You can google if you want more details. The story is not about that offender.

14 дней назад
Aye Hayche
Aye Hayche

The religion with the book where on page 1 it calls for killing anyone who doesn't have the exact same version invisible friend.

14 дней назад
v erbose
v erbose

Sounds like an American

13 дней назад
Walter Wiseman
Walter Wiseman

Install a computer in cars, set up camera's GPS and Ai program that doesn't let you hit people.

14 дней назад
M A +6
M A

We all know the answer but everyone is afraid to say it.

14 дней назад
A H +1
A H

Yeah the truth is even with the push to reduce carbon emissions, nobody wants to ban cars.

14 дней назад
M A +1
M A

No@A H

14 дней назад
michael andrews
michael andrews

Tax the rich so people can live without a boot on their necks 24/7

14 дней назад
Jay NG +1
Jay NG

Lollll Gargasoulas was screaming that "Allah is the true God" and identified as Muslim, yet Islam had nothing to do with it... 🤣

14 дней назад
v erbose
v erbose

He is also human, male, was wearing clothes, driving a car, probably ate breakfast, breathed air, watched tv...

13 дней назад
Don Wil +6
Don Wil

Ban cars

14 дней назад

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